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The Fall Into Meta-Consciousness | with Bernardo Kastrup (More Christ)

This is a repost of my second conversation with Bernardo Kastrup on the More Christ channel and podcast. We discuss the question of different levels and kinds of consciousness, agency, meta-consciousness, spontaneous (“unconscious”) intelligence, intuition, the boundaries of identity, team dynamics and how all of this tie in with the Genesis narrative.

Original video:
Episode 88: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup 2: Consciousness, Meta-Consciousness, God, and Morality: https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A

My previous discussion with Bernardo Kastrup:
Episode 75: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup: Orthodoxy, Resurrecting the Western Mind, Body & Soul: https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Coming up next…
00:01:04 – Intro music
00:01:30 – Introducing the guests
00:02:05 – Reflecting on their last conversation
00:04:42 – The continuity of identity
00:07:30 – John Vervaeke: Agency VS Consciousness
00:09:38 – Attributing private inner consciousness
00:17:27 – Team dynamics
00:25:53 – Is top-down more fundamental than bottom-up?
00:30:24 – Illusions below
00:35:46 – The boundaries of identity
00:43:01 – The angels serve Man
00:47:00 – Where are angels and demons?
00:52:12 – Back to the problem of multiplicity
00:57:27 – True contradictions
01:03:22 – “Unconscious”/Spontaneous intelligence
01:13:01 – Drugs and trauma
01:18:53 – Are other beings also meta-conscious?
01:21:00 – The story of Genesis
01:24:22 – What is meta-consciousness?
01:30:47 – Meta-consciousness in the Genesis narrative
01:38:42 – Moral responsibility
01:46:51 – The Fall into meta-cognition

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